Happy new year 2025…
It might happen if pollievre gets elected. Conservatives are little America worshippers.
The Bloc Québécois might start getting elected outside Québec to form its own country… with other provinces.
You know, I would consider them if they ran outside of Quebec. Francophone issues make no difference either way to me.
Quebec nationalists spent all this time thinking about Quebec independence from Canada, when they could have been talking about the Quebecization of Canada instead. I’m here for it.
Tabarnak, in a good way!
Funny, when he recently was announced to be changing political roles I drug out of storage and doubled down on a Never Buy or Vacation in USA idea.
Don’t feed the trolls! He’s only repeating this because it got attention the last time he spewed this bs.
US deficits/debt are too high to be sustainable. Low taxes come with high health insurance costs. The threat of Russia/China has always been complete BS, but they are not “surrounding us constantly”
The best reply to this asshole would be to openly talk of US states joining Canada as a province. Or to have a constitutional convention with 50 states to decide which 2 countries to form.
We can also offer to trade with China/Russia/others more to lower any trade surpluses we have with US.
I wouldn’t trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine. And China would simply flood our market with their stuff and ruin us.
I wouldn’t trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine.
Believing Russia instigated war is a lie that make Canadians worse than a 51st state. We are a NATO colony. Canadian media discussion of responses to this is that “we need to desperately buy more (3% of gdp) broken F35s to defend the Arctic, and be the front line on war on China” and futher acts of pure sycophancy.
Canadians trusting our CIA allegiant colonial figurehead politicians and media is core to our subservience. Defense pacts with other nuclear powers is best way to have US focus on US-Canada mutual prosperity instead of their destruction and collapse. 51st state, even with the minimal democratic representation that exists in a corrupt US, while less subservient than our current role, also condemns Canada to a worse collapse than US’s destiny. We need to be a brake on US empire instead of the willing sacrifice to the last Canadian that the CIA wants us to accept.
So far I’ve been flagging this guy and others as Tankies so I can quickly ignore them. My reasoning originally was that maybe they’d have something useful to say in other topics so it was better than blocking and not seeing anything at all. At least I would know they’re here and not get out of touch.
I’m really questioning this stance now though. They never have anything good to say and are so obviously propagandists. What are you guys doing?
You need to think for a bit: What does a war on Russia and then China gain for you? If you want to know propaganda, consider what makes you so devoted to that future.
I don’t have to play any of your games or answer your new question. We can start and end with your statement that Russia didn’t start the war in Ukraine. This isn’t some long forgotten detail of the past, it’s recent and the whole world watched Russia invade Ukraine. To refute that is delusional and there’s no point in talking further.
the whole world watched Russia invade Ukraine. To refute that is delusional and there’s no point in talking further.
That is the pure propaganda disinformation that fuels your own delusion.
in 2014, US led coup put their chosen nazis in power, passed Apartheid laws, and with US funding had nazi battalions start civil war bombings in Donbas, and massacred anti nazi protestors in Odessa. Russia has been trying to solve Ukraine peacefully since 2014. The only condition for war in Ukraine to continue is that Ukraine must be a western puppet meant to diminish/terrorize Russia in perpetuity.
When you call reality Russian propaganda, you’re simply misinformed and in state of manipulated confusion. Seems clear that being 51st state is distasteful to both simpletons and informed, but for the simpleton, staying a bitch of the US empire must be defended even more, and war on Russia who’s most optimistic possible outcome is nuclear strikes on simpletons, for which the simpletons will still be cheering for,
Calling reality, opposing the extreme political corruption in subservience to US empire’s demonism, tankie/extreme left, is bodysnatchers level of sycophancy.
Like I said, complete delusion. I’m not some empty headed, cable news watching, USA can do no wrong simpleton. I can see the propaganda that the US puts out and how they meddle in foreign affairs. I also see the propaganda Russia puts out, and you are guzzling it.
There’s no point in continuing this, I won’t reply again to a tankie troll.
It’s what actual left wing extremism looks like, as opposed to whatever the US is pretending it is.
Homie touch some grass.
If you submit to US empire on its warmongering projects and genoicde, you are doomed to a worse fate than being their 51st state.
Trudeau resigned from the most powerful position in the country solely to not have to deal with that orange buffoon’s BS one second more than he has to.
Bullshit. I firmly believe that no one in Trudeau’s organization cares one whit about that troll, nor would feed it if given a chance.
Trudeau bailed because of internal trolling from the same ‘mean girl’ opposition which has focused more on his appearance than anything else this entire time, which has been building the misinformation campaign that WILL influence voting.
Essentially, he bailed so the scumbag cons had less to distract us from the issues, like the horribly American platform the cons are offering, as usual. Only by focusing the message on that can we convince the facebook-addicted hillbillies to actually vote IN their own best interests instead of electing conservatives.
I still have little hope for Saskatchewan.
Sorry there is no way the liberals or ndp win the next election.
There is still the bloc. Érable-flavoured national socialism is infinitely more tolerable than submitting to american imperialism.
A Polish proverb, referring to Russia, that came back into relevance during the invasion of Ukraine.
“The Rubble is preferable to your dominion”
it’s transferable here, too
That could have played a big part in his decision. But he’s also very unpopular across Canada. He’s hoping they might choose a new face that the people will love, but I doubt it would solve anything at this point.
I like how he says “Many people in Canada LOVE being the 51st state”, where did he get that? any polls he did recently?
Let him talk as much he want, nothing he can do IMO.
Those are meaningless questions to ask someone like Trump. It doesn’t matter and never will matter where he gets the statement. He just needs to never admit that he pulled that out of his ass, and accuse every fact checker of political bias or lying. Those are the rules in his playbook.
“Many” equals literally thousands
Thousands of idiots who would sell out their family for a red hat. all because they’re mad about bathroom signs.
if push came to shove, those people would be taken care of pretty violently.
It’s the same reason that Russia used for invading Ukraine and China is using for it’s threats of invading Taiwan…
We really need to stop laughing at this.
This.
Dictators love to pretend they are a saviour and use that pretext to invade and mutder
He is manufacturing your consent for the takeover.
Anglo FLQ is going to be interesting.
I feel like Canada would be too big as a singular state, we should break it up and have many new states based on provinces. We’ll call Quebec New France.
Greenland can be just one state though, we won’t have to divy the land up until all the ice melts and that.
Québec will remain Québec, thank you.
It already has a name. No need to give it some colony sounding name.
Québec would probably break off, taking the Maritimes and big parts of Ontario with it. Maybe even Vermont.
I will say that I think a lot of people are about to get a taste for how much worse we can do than Trudeau.
It’s getting to the point where I don’t think dicking around on internet forums is good enough. Every time trump repeat the phrase “51st state” it gets a little more serious. We need to start organizing irl like, yesterday.
If only anyone had access to guns actually useful in an invasion. I wouldn’t even face off against a herd of feral pigs with a legal gun. Have fun with a five shot pinned SKS or an old bolt action 308 facing off a military
I hate how vague that always is. Specific ideas: Join the military, annoy your MP, volunteer for a political party. If it’s America that we’re worried about none of the edgelord stuff applies anyway.
I’m thinking more along the lines of we might not be able to trust our government (and therefore military) to do the right thing, independent of who wins the election.
It would be wise to put together some type of organization (reserve militia?) to be prepared for that contingency.
What military?
Riiight, because that’s easier, and can be trusted more than the democratically controlled military we already have. I’m sorry, that’s one of the edgelord things I was talking about.
Bet you don’t though.
Yeah. We have to start having discussions with our family and relatives. We can’t keep politics out of conversations anymore. Anyone who plans to vote conservative needs to be convinced otherwise.
He obviously hasn’t thought it through. As one state, with a proportionate number of congressmen and electoral college votes, Canada would end up as the anti-Texas, dragging the political centre of gravity well into a Democratic majority. A Trumpist annexation would have to split Canada into two states, Alberta and the rest, as to gerrymander the outcome.
Assuming they have the grace to make us all citizens and allow us to vote. I’m not holding my breath.
Don’t worry I think that pesky voting process is a thing of the past.
At least we’d be a state unlike poor Puerto Rico
Gotta love checks notes taxation without representation?
canada as a state and voting left, all else the same wrt u.s. presidential election process…
canada would have two senators, increasing the senate to 102 members. and in a reapportioned house, receive 44 seats, ‘taking’ 5 from california; 4 from tx; 3 from fl; 2 ea from il, ny, nc, pa; 1 ea from al, az, co, ct, ga, in, ks, ky, md, ma, mi, mn, mo, mt, ne, nj, oh, or, ri, sc, tn, va, wa, wi.
using 2024 state results (note: figuring ne and me would basically cancel each other out anyway and to keep my 2-minute spreadsheet simple, i just left those two states all-or-nothing), and assuming the great commonwealth of canada, now a u.s. state, would vote left…
looks like it woulda been 287 for r, 253 for d; with 271 needed to win.
just adding a state doesn’t change how electoral college votes are distributed, it’s still heavily skewed in favor of low-pop states because states get equal representation in the senate regardless of population. remember each member of congress… that’s house + senate… gives their state one ec vote. that’s why the hypothetical here doesn’t change the overall outcome.
if each province became a state instead… things might get ‘interesting’, then.
Don’t forget the territories
You mean that country that regularly elects Conservative majorities, with a lower overall population than California?
If Canada agreed to become the 51rst state, by that time it’d be Texas.
Who cares anymore? Federal government destroyed any idea of patriotism west of Ontario and east of the lower mainland a long time ago. Pursuing “post national state” wankery has consequences.
He’s a turd. That is all.
I’m 2020 52% of Puerto Ricans who voted said yes to joining the United States as a full fledged state. What about them, they actually want to be a part of this shithole country.
They already are, technically. They just don’t have a voice on who their leader can be.
Le Anschluss?
Remember, folks, those “subsidies” he’s talking are simply the result of an idiot looking at his country relying so much on importing our oil and other resources that they spend more to buy our stuff than they get from selling their own shit. He thinks that the U.S. is so perfect and awesome that there’s no way they could possibly be beholden to another country like this so obviously it means that they’re giving away money.
Canada has the control here, not those losers.
