Hey! I have a life. It just wholly revolves around my computer.
Now do all the Linux distros.
I tried to be unbiased, but failed. Apple and Linux should be switched.
Too true. MacOS is the one place you can get a UNIX toolchain in a stable environment. If something works on my Mac, it works on my coworker’s Mac. If something works on Ubuntu but you’re using Nix… Uh, YMMV.
I love Linux, but if you’re gonna use it as a desktop OS, you pretty much accept that you now have a part-time job keeping up on Linux news to deal with the fact that each component of your system is in a perpetual state of “deprecated support for The Old Way, and experimental support for The New Way”.
Every Flatpak, Snap, and AppImage works on every Linux system I’ve tried.
MacOS is trash. An OS’ primary job is managing applications and their windows and MacOS provides the most utterly unintuitive and non functional UX, the instant you plug in an external monitor.
It’s an OS designed for people writing word docs on their laptop at Starbucks, not for getting real work done.
Hell, try and enable viewing hidden files and folders in all finder and file picker windows. Oh wait, you can’t!
You can use a terminal command to enable them in basic finder windows, but they’ll still always be hidden in application’s file pickers which use Finder, because lord forbid Apple treats their users like adults.
Our Mac colleague is literally the only one in the dev team having constant troubles, constantly spinning up VMs to get stuff working.
Yeah, if you have a mixed dev team then I’m sure the odd ones out are gonna have the most trouble.
My point was more that if you have a team of all Macs or a team of all Linux, I’m much more confident in stuff working on everyone’s machine in the Mac scenario.
Even if you stretch it to “the Mac users get to customize the hell out of their machines, and the Linux users only do the minimum to get a fully functional dev environment”, I think the Macs end up in a more consistent state.
I love Linux as well, but there’s always something you didn’t know about that breaks, and it’s up to you to figure out what broke and how to fix it.
I’ve had the problem for a while now that the audio is set to the wrong output after screen lock, and I have given up on finding a fix for it.
The reason MacOS is seen as a working computer is because if anything breaks about it, it isn’t considered a computer anymore by Apple, it is considered e-waste.
I guess I don’t get this attitude about macs. I switched to mac when I was traveling a lot in 2007 and saw how portable they could be compared to other laptops. It’s almost 2025 and I just bought my third one last year. My kids are still using my 13 year old MBA for homework, and the hardware is absolutely solid.
Edit: Lol, downvote reality. My favorite pastime.
You don’t get this attitude about Macs? Are you willfully blind?
Plug a 1080p monitor into a Windows or Linux machine and notice how text is crisp and readable, because they use sub-pixel text rendering, a technique in use for decades to make text readable and lower resolution monitors.
Now plug that monitor into a MacOS computer and notice the text looks like trash because Apple ripped out their sub-pixel text rendering system to force users to buy their fancy high res monitors.
I don’t actually own a 1080p monitor (nor an apple one), and that’s a pretty specific reason to hate macs of high resolution is your desire. I’m sure there are no similar issues with other platforms that someone could find as a reason to [presumably] turn their PCs into ewaste- which is the actual topic of this thread.
Hyperbolic much?
From another thread on this topic:
Even Microsoft themselves are moving away from it. They just left it on Windows as is for those who use old, standard-res LCD. Their subpixel antialiasing (ClearType) has been disabled by default on Microsoft Office (and many of their productivity products) for years.
The reason why they are moving away from subpixel antialiasing is because, the sole reason for it exist is for the shortcoming of standard LCD, where it has a big “pixel” that consist of row of RGB “subpixel”. Say if you want to draw a line of 1.5px, obviously you can’t divide that pixel in half. What people did was by using some of the “subpixel” to made up that 0.5px (e.g. it’ll only light up the blue subpixel if the 0.5px is to the left, or conversely the red subpixel if it’s tho the right). Here is an example. By using subpixel rendering on standard LCD, you can “fool” the user by adding that extra colour on the side, which when viewed on standard LCD, it will look smooth rather than those jagged colour.
Now, obviously this “illusion” will only work on display with big pixel consist of (in order) red, green, and blue subpixel. Now, since many people are moving away toward high resolution display (Apple’s main reason) and there are many other display type with different subpixel arrangements (Microsoft’s main reason, and also Apple’s with their OLED products), there is no reason to use subpixel rendering anymore (in fact, using it on any display other than LCD will look worse).
I don’t actually own a 1080p monitor (nor an apple one), and that’s a pretty specific reason to hate macs of high resolution is your desire.
No it is one example amongst hundreds of Apple not prioritizing backwards compatibility or even just third party compatibility, because it would be a little extra effort for a couple software engineers, and as a result we get piles and piles of physical e-waste.
As a company Apple takes no responsibility for their role in compatibility and ensuring that our (society’s) broad ecosystem of products keeps functioning, they only put effort into making sure that their products, that they profit off of, work and keep working.
A little extra effort times “hundreds” of examples is a lot of extra effort…
Okay then. Thanks for your viewpoint.
they dont like when you point out that as obnoxious as apple can be, they put out good products
They put out the best commodity hw on the market IMO. The rest is subjective, and everyone is entitled to their preferences.
Also no mention that macos actually flows from the last Berkeley release of BSD and still has significant interoperability/portability with other variants. Oh well.
This was a problem when they were selling Apple IIs
MUGs came into being because Apple provided zero support and overcharged for proprietary hardware. So the only recourse was to find a hobbyist, and they were glad to help.
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I want it; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS
Man, this guy’s wiki background ends on a banger.
" In mid-2013, his website announced: “God’s temple is finished. Now, God kills CIA until it spreads [sic].”[6]
Davis died after being hit by a train on August 11, 2018.[7]"
RIP king.
So I’m switching to TempleOS.
I absolutely cannot figure out what to do in order to fix an Apple computer when it’s bugging out. Is it a part? The OS? Something external? How am I supposed to diagnose this fucker with so little information? Windows is rapidly heading down the same road. Linux will remain the final bastion of those who fix their electronics themselves
If only it had a whole slew of logs, like any other OS, that I could easily Google the locations of… Nah, vomiting ignorance on Lemmy is easier.
macOS is Unix. Everything can be logged and reported through the terminal if you want more debugging information. There are also power tools you can download that give you better GUI-based control over a myriad of things.
Though it’s worse now than it was ten years ago. Apple’s software has been suffering under Tim Cook and it’s probably not going to get better until he’s gone.
I absolutely cannot figure out what to do in order to fix an Apple computer when it’s bugging out
Buy a new one, duh
Or do the same basic troubleshooting you would for any other computer. It sounds like the person you’re replying to doesn’t know how to do that. They should learn. It’s not that hard.
Indeed I think the “Yes/No” are the wrong way around on the Apple part of the flow.
Also, why else do you think they call them geniuses. Only geniuses could possibly fix your smooth metal rectangle.
So am I too crazy for 🐧?
I am not at all mentally stable, but was planning on starting my switch in January.
I think you get your pick of BSDs.
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Do you like to throw money at your problems and more money when you’re told: 🍎
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Do you have a nonconsensual submissive kink with a love for sadistic roughly forced updates destroying what you were working on and ads shoved deep up your home directory: 🪟
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Do you like free stuff and can RTFM: 🐧
why RTFM when you can
- Be the manual (own distro)
- forum (Linux mint fr fr epic gaming free robux baby gronk rizzed up livvy dunne sigma) i use this
sorry for the brainrot
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Do you like being spied on and having your data sold?
=> Windows or ChromeOSDo you have too much money?
=> MacDo you have a decent set of working brains?
=> LinuxUsed and refurbished Macs aren’t that expensive.
Microsoft’s telemetry isnt ideal, but they’re not selling your Windows usage data. That is explicitly just used for the OS developers to diagnose issues and evaluate what features are being used.
Your bing data and shit they are absolutely selling, but it has a different privacy agreement.
Working computer - >Mac
Should have been:
Do you have more money than brains?->Mac
Or
Fuck this, I’m doing this for shit and giggles. ->Mac
Is my employer paying for it? ➔ 🍎
The best thing about quitting was returning that damned Mac… Hated every second of using it, horrid UX.
MacOS fails at the main job of OS: managing multiple running applications / windows. I do not understand how they get praise.
Well if your definition of “working” is “can run all the important programs and game” then anything thats not windows or linux wont work.
Honestly. I got a work mac and now I can’t run notepad++. I’m stuck with an ide I hate.
Use TextEdit for .txt and .rtf, and get Sublime Text, VS Codium, or any of the other bazillion IDEs out there until you find one you can tolerate. Helix does that for me. (:
Thanks for the suggestions. I cannot fucking stand vscode or vscodium
Which aspects about it do you dislike?
I’m asking since for most everything – except maybe the fact it’s Electron-based – there’s an extension, or the behavior can already be altered in the settings.
Also, IDK how your workplace handles application management, but if you have any freedom as a developer (if that is your role?), make sure to get a package manager, presumably Homebrew or MacPorts.
Brew especially isn’t perfect, butbrew install <name>handily beats out any installation method containing the words “App Store” or “Browser download button.”You have to apply some (from time to time well-hidden) tweaks to macOS until it becomes usable. :P
TempleOS, huh? Better give it a try then.
It’s an amazing piece of technology made as a hobby project by the absurdly talented Terry Davis. He gradually lost his world, house and evetually his life to debilitating mental illness, so it makes me sad to see posts like this using “mentally unstable lol” as a punchline.
I agree it’s in poor taste to make fun of his mental health issues but calling TempleOS a “hobby project” is burying the lede a little…
So … no updates?
Fork it!
where plan 9
In outer space
