Unless policies or technologies change, the ownership cost of electric vehicles (EVs) needs to decrease by 31 per cent if Canada to wants to reach its sales target of 60 per cent EVs by 2030, according to a new report released Thursday by Parliamentary Budget Officer Yves Giroux.

Last December, the federal government unveiled its Electric Vehicle Availability Standard that outlined zero-emission vehicle sales targets for automakers. The standard requires all new light-duty sales in Canada to be electric or plug-in hybrid by 2035. There are also interim targets of at least 20 per cent of all sales being EVs by 2026 and 60 per cent by 2030.

Those federal government targets come as growth forecasts for auto companies have plateaued and concerns about charging infrastructure persist. The price of EVs has also pushed the cars out of reach for many consumers. According to the Canadian Black Book, the average cost of an EV was $73,000 in 2023.

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    The second case is for long distance drivers and/or towing, if you drive more than 2x your battery range in a day as a normal action then EVs just aren’t yet sufficient for you.

    These people should not exist. These jobs should not exist. They didn’t before cars, and we got by just fine back then. After cars were invented, some people decided to just go wild with a dangerous technology and use it too much. Companies started hiring truckers to spend all day in an automobile. Cities started building housing far far away from the workplaces those people are supposed to use. Well, it turns out internal combustion engines are not a safe technology, and our society never had the capability to support those jobs and lifestyles. We need to tax these transport companies until it just doesn’t make economic sense to deliver all these goods by automobile. And we need to tax these long distance commuters until it just doesn’t make economic sense to live that far away from their workplaces.

    Our society never had the ability to support people doing these crazy, irrational, dangerous things. We subsidized those lifestyles at the cost of everyone else. We cannot afford to support people doing all this reckless driving. And we can’t keep passing that cost on to future generations. It’s time to make the companies and people doing these unsustainable things eat the cost of their own decisions until they stop.

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      There are regional parts suppliers that have daily/weekly routes that are several hundred kms long. They provide stuff from auto parts, plumbing fittings, and everything in between, often allowing local businesses to get parts quickly without needing to invest in massive warehouses to store larger deliveries or pay extreme delivery fees. These delivery services can be essential to small towns or rural living.

      I agree with your points about ridiculous commutes and such, and large cities should defintely be investing in transit and density. Car centric planning is bleeding our cities and our cities are where we should focus improvement.

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        We had small towns before the automobile. Parts were delivered by train or wagon. Our society got used to having instant access to remote goods because of this demand for razor-thin margins and constant work. Well, that’s not how the human race spent the last hundred thousand years, and I don’t think it’s how humans are meant to spend life at all. It’s too much and it’s killing the planet. 150 years ago, people took their time. Stuff took as long as it took. If your equipment broke, you made a new part yourself or you made do without. And you got stuff that was sturdy, and that wouldn’t break all the time. None of this plastic garbage planned obsolescence overengineered nonsense. Would it be such a bad thing if life slowed down a little? Because this planet can’t afford us all to keep going as fast as cars have gotten us used to.

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          I don’t think it would be detrimental, but try convincing the business owners that, try convincing the parts delivery owners that, try convincing the guy waiting on his furnace parts that 3 weeks an acceptable wait time, have fun firing the delivery driver.

          We need a slower solution to transition. Get all those suburban commuters into an EV and let delivery vehicles use gas while we get better battery technology or heavily invest into rail again.

          Canada used to harvest ice blocks from the lakes and ship them to tropical climates for ice boxs and whiskey on the rocks. People died on the ice, on the boats and everywhere in between. We have always been a ridiculous society that throws away a lot to cater to a few.

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            They’ll get used to it if it’s the only way, or they’ll find a workaround, like a sensible railway network. Big gas taxes would create a big opportunity for private industry to build railways. Where’s the invisible hand of the free market? I’ll tell you where it is, it’s scratching its own bum out of boredom because the government won’t regulate externalities and make companies responsible for their own decisions.

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              Im all for trains, but i don’t see a train stopping to drop off 3 parcels. Unfortunately we atill need road based deliveries unless we want to completely rethink our economy. There is also the factor that quality of life was a lot lower in most rural areas before these services

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      Are you saying tow trucks shouldn’t exist? How about delivery vehicles for those living in remote areas that can only serviced by ice roads or airplanes?

      Canada is a vast nation and most of it doesn’t have rail services … which all run on diesel btw. I understand gov’ts should have been upgrading transportation services over the last 3 decades, but they didn’t, and we can’t do it all overnight to make up for it.

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        We have to do it all overnight to make up for it. Otherwise, Canadians are going to be sipping pina colada on the Manitoba beaches while the rest of the world burns.