• Desistance@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    I’ll go against the grain. Janeway was right. She corrected a horrible accident that killed two people while creating another.

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      12 days ago

      Fuck, it caught me by surprise and I couldn’t stop laughing and snorting for so long my partner came over to check if I was ok.

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    12 days ago

    Currently rewatching ds9, with all the feels for tuvix, it’s like the writers wanted higher stakes odo-kurzon

    Edit: same director. Different writers. One year difference (June to May)

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    12 days ago

    I mean…once they separated the patterns in the buffer they could have spun out neelix, tuvok and then tuvix too right?

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      12 days ago

      They never had the time. The orchids merged both of their patterns together into a singular pattern that was materialized. Patterns aren’t saved after they’re beamed to their destination. Cloning also wasn’t viable. That could only happen in very particular circumstances that they wouldn’t likely have been able to recreate. Even if they did it still ends up with a “Do I kill this one being to split back into two?”, you’ve just got two Tuvixs to choose from.

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          12 days ago

          I do watch Lower Decks and that is a pretty ridiculously unfair comparison considering Boimler’s duplication wasn’t a preplanned event and the Tuvix episode happened in Federation space with access to new knowledge in the years that have passed.

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            Oh, I thought you meant the merger was hard to duplicate, because they were doing those left & right on the Voyager episode of Lower Decks.

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          Sure. Which they would understand as both were created by sheer circumstance and accident in freak events, not a pre-planned event. I mean I’d also need to break temporal physics to go into the future, from Tuvix and Janeways perspective, to talk to Boimler considering that happened many years later.

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              11 days ago

              Literally no, it wasn’t. None of those were viable options that Janeway had available.

              I’ve wasted enough effort on you, thanks.

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                  Ah yes, you mean all the moments that involves temporal agents who made it possible? Those times? When it was not in Voyagers power to travel so other tech from another person had to do it? Or that time where she went back in the past from stealing tech from the Klingons? Those times? Where Voyager was literally incapable of going back in time without assistance from the future. Those times?

                  So. Like I said. Travelling to the future was not viable.

                  You are being ridiculously disingenuous. I am not in the mood for this petty and vindictive nonsense. Leave it on reddit.